WHO Poll
Q: 2023/24 Hopes & aspirations for this season
a. As Champions of Europe there's no reason we shouldn't be pushing for a top 7 spot & a run in the Cups
24%
  
b. Last season was a trophy winning one and there's only one way to go after that, I expect a dull mid table bore fest of a season
17%
  
c. Buy some f***ing players or we're in a battle to stay up & that's as good as it gets
18%
  
d. Moyes out
38%
  
e. New season you say, woohoo time to get the new kit and wear it it to the pub for all the big games, the wags down there call me Mr West Ham
3%
  



Hammer and Pickle 10:59 Sat Mar 16
Re: Do you believe in God?
Hush child.

The discus pair have spawned and the eggs may hatch tomorrow or the day after. Both parents are going about their duties in exemplary fashion, fanning and fussing just as God intended.

It’s looking good this time!

Nurse Ratched 10:41 Sat Mar 16
Re: Do you believe in God?
Rios 9:42

I would go further and say Pickle has the perfect mind for a cult member. Not leader, member.

Hammer and Pickle 10:24 Sat Mar 16
Re: Do you believe in God?
Why not?

Especially if it included a history of ideas and allowed the player to access the social and moral resources needed to deal with life’s challenges. Might even help them treat nonsense like “natural law” or “divine rights” properly.

WHU(Exeter) 9:53 Sat Mar 16
Re: Do you believe in God?
You should market “a sense of duty” as a computer game Pickle.

Educational AND FUN

Would rival Call of Duty?

riosleftsock 9:42 Sat Mar 16
Re: Do you believe in God?
Pickle, you are probably the most religious person on here.

Hammer and Pickle 9:17 Sat Mar 16
Re: Do you believe in God?
Can I say that curiosity and openness tends to work better than dogma, whether it happens to include various stories and rituals about god/gods or not; especially when that includes social awareness and a sense of duty?

Or would that make me some kind of condescending, open-minded and cool sort of person?

WHU(Exeter) 8:39 Sat Mar 16
Re: Do you believe in God?
“Everyone apart from those that have been indoctrinated is irreligious from birth. Only a relative few seek it out by free choice."

In that case, there would never have been any religion. You can see how that works can’t you?

Perhaps not…

Willtell 8:26 Sat Mar 16
Re: Do you believe in God?
There’s really not Wils.

Wils 7:48 Sat Mar 16
Re: Do you believe in God?
"Everyone apart from those that have been indoctrinated is irreligious from birth. Only a relative few seek it out by free choice."

I can see that thought is quite deep rooted in your psyche. There's an irony in that.

BRANDED 7:47 Sat Mar 16
Re: Do you believe in God?
Humans are mostly religious and always have been.

WHU(Exeter) 7:34 Sat Mar 16
Re: Do you believe in God?
“Say what you like about non-believers but that is the natural state of human beings”

Can you enlarge on that one? I’m up with you to the “say what you like” bit, but can’t get my head round the rest of the sentence, and would hate to miss out.

Willtell 7:30 Sat Mar 16
Re: Do you believe in God?
“ WHU(Exeter) 7:29 Sat Mar 16”

Why make you look stupid then did he?

Willtell 7:29 Sat Mar 16
Re: Do you believe in God?
Wils
Everyone apart from those that have been indoctrinated is irreligious from birth. Only a relative few seek it out by free choice.

Religion is not based on factual evidence. Say what you like about non-believers but that is the natural state of human beings.

If god rocks up and says “Oi you lot…” then I’ll be first in the queue…

WHU(Exeter) 7:29 Sat Mar 16
Re: Do you believe in God?
I hope you’re not addressing that to Willtell.

Wils 7:16 Sat Mar 16
Re: Do you believe in God?
"Religion needs indoctrination in the very young or later life events"

So does irreligion. Everyone drills their kids with their own world view. It's no coincidence that kids growing up in atheist households will likely be atheists too. Peer pressure is also huge influence. Societies move towards and away from religion together.

What I find interesting about this argument is the paradox in the belief that provides a great many of the irreligious with their sense of superiority. They believe that their lack of religion is becuase they are 'freethinking' and that their own irreligious world view is not a consequence or a product of their own socialising in a society riven with cultural phenomena. This is a very absolutist interpretation of the Christian doctrine of free will.

WHU(Exeter) 7:13 Sat Mar 16
Re: Do you believe in God?
Google translate?

Magnifying glass?

Sorry, but your incredibly thought provoking points and pearls of wisdom….there are so many of them, contained in just a few paragraphs…it’s like looking into a kaleidoscope of higher knowledge.

Are you an alien?

BRANDED 7:10 Sat Mar 16
Re: Do you believe in God?
Good education should be about critical thinking. One where you can see religion in a good light as much as science on a bad one. The lens through which you do your thinking is the one that matters.

Willtell 7:02 Sat Mar 16
Re: Do you believe in God?
Of course it is my first language you plonker. Common sense isn’t your strongpoint though is it?

Religion universally spreads by indoctrination. Conversions are relatively few. You don’t get to claim that I’m saying all education is indoctrination because learning maths, language, history and geography are matters of learning evidence based facts..

Religion is not an evidence based subject. I think it’s pure bullshit personally but if you’ve got faith in it compared to a factual education then stop pretending you’re anything other than a smartarse

WHU(Exeter) 6:50 Sat Mar 16
Re: Do you believe in God?
Apologies.

I keep forgetting that English isn’t your first language.

Willtell 6:40 Sat Mar 16
Re: Do you believe in God?
I never said that any teaching was automatically indoctrination though. You drew that assumption but were wrong to do so.

Religion needs indoctrination in the very young or later life events which I covered in detail. You’re just being silly and arguing for arguments sake.

WHU(Exeter) 6:35 Sat Mar 16
Re: Do you believe in God?
Your assertion that any teaching of religion is automatically indoctrination.

The way you’ve phrased your argument, which taken logically, would also mean that infants taught maths would also be indoctrination.

Apologies if you’ve missed these points.

If you’d like to point me in the right direction to the higher level, words of wisdom and points, in amongst your drivel, then feel free.

Give me 5 minutes and I’ll fetch my readers.

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